Slow Day: I make the lists, you critique the lists!

With the holidays coming up, it’s been kinda slow at work, so what better way to kill some time than with list-building? Too bad I can’t paint my models at work…

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Over the weekend, Menoth smiled upon me something fierce and my model collection grew exponentially!  Filling up that new shelf may not be so hard after all…until you count painting them…

Starting to look a lot less sparse...
Starting to look a lot less sparse...

With so many new models, I think I have enough to really make some diverse lists and start trying something other than my current Strakhov 2-jack list.  Let’s get to theorycrafting!

Khador!

First, let’s start with Khador.  Right now, I play 35 points which is a standard game, but tournies and the like can go up to and are usually 50 points.  So the first idea was how to take my Khador up to 50 points and what I came up with was…

Points: 50/50

Kommander Strakhov (*6pts)
* Beast-09 (11pts)
* Torch (10pts)
* War dog (1pts)
Great Bears of Gallowswood (5pts)
Iron Fang Pikemen (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Iron Fang Pikemen Officer & Standard (2pts)
Kayazy Assassins (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Kayazy Assassin Underboss (2pts)
Kayazy Eliminators (Leader and Grunt) (3pts)
Widowmakers (Leader and 3 Grunts) (4pts)
Widowmaker Marksman (2pts)

Going the Kayazy Assassin route!  Despite being godawful ugly models (excluding the Eliminators), I really like their rules and abilities.  I know the Winterguard “Deathstar” would also fit, but it just leaves me cold. I feel the Kayazy fit me better.

Yes please.
Yes please.

Also, here is a list I think I am going to try next time I go to the LGS:

Points: 35/35
Vladimir, The Dark Prince (*5pts)
* Beast-09 (11pts)
* Juggernaut (7pts)
* Marauder (7pts)
* War dog (1pts)
Great Bears of Gallowswood (5pts)
Iron Fang Pikemen (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
* Iron Fang Pikemen Officer & Standard (2pts)
Widowmaker Marksman (2pts)

What, no Strakhov?!  I know, I know but I kinda want to try a different warcaster besides Strakhov and Scorscha now that I have over ten games in.  I’m also curious to try just a little bit more ‘jack heavy.  It will also be the first time with the Marauder, which is the only Khador ‘jack in my possession that I haven’t used yet.  I guess I’m trying to feel out what will suit me best, ya know?

On to the Protectorate!!

Awhile back I wrote how I planned to turn the other half of my 2 player battle box into a t4 Reznik list. Welp, I also changed my mind awhile back…I still wanted to do a theme force, but I always wanted an army of knights on the table. I also wanted to use the Cinerators and the Daughters of the Flame, as they are some of my favorite models in the Menoth line.  Thus this was my idea for quite some time (up until I got lucky with that Menoth lot that I am now the proud owner of).

eKreoss and his massive shoulder pauldrons.
eKreoss and his massive shoulder pauldrons.

Points: 30/35
Tiers: 3
Grand Exemplar Kreoss (*6pts)
* Crusader (6pts)
Daughters of the Flame (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Exemplar Cinerators (Leader and 4 Grunts) (8pts)
Exemplar Errants (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
* Exemplar Errant Officer & Standard Bearer (2pts)
Knights Exemplar (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Knights Exemplar (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Knight Exemplar Seneschal (0pts)

With the last 5 points being either another unit of Daughters, Knights Exemplar, a min unit of Bastions, or 2 more Seneschals (one Exemplar, one Errant) much later on.  A Repenter would fill in the gap until then…

…then I got this amazing Menoth lot for another local DC player that was sadly getting out of the game.  So for that last 5 points, in comes High Exemplar Gravus to fill it out!  Gravus will also be the first cavalry unit I ever use.  Also here comes tier 4 status!

Points: 35/35
Tiers: 4
Grand Exemplar Kreoss (*6pts)
* Fire of Salvation (9pts)
Daughters of the Flame (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Exemplar Cinerators (Leader and 2 Grunts) (5pts)
Exemplar Errants (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
* Exemplar Errant Officer & Standard Bearer (2pts)
Knights Exemplar (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Knights Exemplar (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
High Exemplar Gravus (5pts)
Knight Exemplar Seneschal (0pts)

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Now, let’s make a list for some of the other casters I have shall we? First up is Thyra, a warcaster I am very excited to use.  I think she is one of the coolest looking warcasters on Menoth’s (or anyone else’s for that matter) side and her rules and playstyle seem right up my alley.  Her feat seems a bit weird to me, but I guess I’ll just have to use it in-game to see what it’s all about.

Thyra, Flame of Sorrow
Such a badass model IMO, along with her homies, the Daughters of the Flame and Nicia, Tear of Vengence.

Points: 35/35
Thyra, Flame of Sorrow (*6pts)
* Blood of Martyrs (9pts)
* Fire of Salvation (9pts)
Daughters of the Flame (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Daughters of the Flame (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Knights Exemplar (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon (3pts)
Nicia, Tear of Vengeance (3pts)
The Covenant of Menoth (2pts)

For this lists, it’s pretty much powerhouses and Daughters of the Flame.  This is most definitely an alpha-strike force.  I hope I can get Thyra in the mix too because she seems like a major damage dealer.

eFeora: warcaster, firewalker.
eFeora: warcaster, firewalker.

Feora, Protector of the Flame (*6pts)
* Repenter (4pts)
* Crusader (6pts)
* Vanquisher (8pts)
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)
Daughters of the Flame (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Exemplar Cinerators (Leader and 2 Grunts) (5pts)
Knights Exemplar (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon (3pts)
The Covenant of Menoth (2pts)
The Wrack (3 wracks) (1pts)

I’ve read that eFeora is a ‘jack caster, so I loaded her with 3 warjacks and an assortment of units.  This one is definitely going to need some retooling I think.  EDIT: Here’s a bonus crazy, all warjack idea:

Points: 35/35
Feora, Protector of the Flame (*6pts)
* Crusader (6pts)
* Reckoner (8pts)
* Vanquisher (8pts)
Avatar of Menoth (11pts)
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 5 Grunts) (3pts)
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon (3pts)
Vassal of Menoth (2pts)

Nothing a stint on a Wrack can't cure...
Nothing a stint on a Wrack can't cure...

Points: 35/35
High Executioner Servath Reznik (*6pts)
* Repenter (4pts)
* Crusader (6pts)
* Fire of Salvation (9pts)
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)
Exemplar Cinerators (Leader and 2 Grunts) (5pts)
Exemplar Errants (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
* Exemplar Errant Officer & Standard Bearer (2pts)
Knights Exemplar (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
The Covenant of Menoth (2pts)
The Wrack (3 wracks) (1pts)

Reznik is also supposed to be a ‘jack caster but a bit more focused.  I have Cinerators in there to screen him a bit and the rest to gum up the works until the man-mountain can get in there to wrack himself some heretics.

The model that I'm sure attracted lots to Warmachine or Menoth.
The model that I'm sure attracted lots to Warmachine or Menoth.

Points: 35/35
Harbinger of Menoth (*5pts)
* Crusader (6pts)
* Fire of Salvation (9pts)
* Reckoner (8pts)
Avatar of Menoth (11pts)
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 5 Grunts) (3pts)
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon (3pts)

This is just a crazy idea I had since the Harbringer has an insane amount of focus, running all warjacks pretty much.  I’m sure it won’t work, but it would be fun to try. Once.

Thoughts?

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4 thoughts on “Slow Day: I make the lists, you critique the lists!”

  1. unfortunately I don’t consider myself knowledgeable enough to really comment on your lists. Although I do have to say that I have Sisters as much as Kayazy. 😛

  2. I’m just going to comment on the eFeora list, couple of ideas. With eFeora I have used Reckoner a lot. Sure, it’s great with everything but it reaches new level of funny with that +2″ inches. 12 inch charge from a menoth heavy? 22 inch long shot with condemner assault? Yikes! Also, bringing Redeemer for a bond is also really funny. Three 3″ templates with autofire? Ooh, yes!

    So my battlegroup has been: eFeora, Redeemer, Vanquisher, Reckoner, sometimes repenter. Add full choir, vassal and wracks. That’s my starting point for her. 🙂 It has some wicked ranged assassination potential, combined with her feat to grant everyone enough focus. Mobility opens up a whole new world of threat ranges for jacks.

    I’m going to try out bringing a more melee focused battlegroup, but I’ll have to see how that works out. 🙂

    1. Thanks for the info! I actually got an idea from a post on your site and added a bonus eFeora list that is basically all warjacks. I’m pretty eager to try it out.

  3. That looks like a fun and effective list. I would not field Avatar with her, as it would not get those sweet sweet battlegroup bonuses. But I’m sure it’s worth every point with her, no doubt about it. 🙂

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